Some people do their best thinking on a walk. Me? I do my best thinking in the shower.
So I was thinking in the shower about how “The Most Interesting Man in the World” is back — yes, that guy, Jonathan Goldsmith, returning as the Dos Equis spokesperson after a ten-year hiatus, now with a funny “amnesia” twist and a whole lot of nostalgia.
And while I do appreciate a sexy, wise older gentleman with an open collar and a “stay thirsty, my friends” vibe, my shower thoughts flowed to this thought:
“Okay… but where is the campaign for “The Most Interesting WOMAN in the World?” Who the heck is SHE?
Because if we’re being honest, she’s probably not lounging around with a beer plotting her next adventure.
She may be plotting but she’s got a ‘sh*tload of things to finish first before cracking open a beer or pouring a glass of wine or doing whatever relaxes her to focus on ‘the plot’.
So WHO IS SHE?
By Jove I thought to myself, “The Most Interesting WOMAN in the World” is… WE!
WE meaning – all the women over 50 (and there are plenty I tell ya!) with wisdom, passion and purpose —out there in the world ‘still in the game’, who’ve been there, done that, – and are still swinging against all odds most days.
I was thinking, SHE likely has wrinkles, uses reading glasses, has a very busy brain, likely has a demanding job or business or demanding caretaking obligation. And most likely has a huge heart that still puts everyone else first. Hmmm. Sounds a lot like me. Sound like you? Or someone you know?
Oh – and she buys a boatload of stuff. Like Me.
“The Most Interesting Woman in the World” – Hmmm.
She’s the woman who:
- might not have a giant social media following… but has massive word-of-mouth power
- buys everything for everybody (herself, the household, the kids, the grandkids, the nieces, the nephews… and probably the neighbor)
- is old-school but open to new things (especially if they promise better health, more energy, fewer annoyances or promise to make her look younger.)
“The Most Interesting WOMAN in the World” Takes Risks!
Yes, she does!
So who am I not to?
Especially since I’m the one always pushing others to: “Risk It! or Regret It!
I decided to RISK turning on my phone camera to record an opening segment of my radio show on ‘video’ as well as audio, so you could SEE what you usually don’t when I do my live radio show.
Yup, you can see how I talk with my hands and see the products I brought in from my house for ‘show and tell’ on the air that day.
It was not a comfortable decision. I’ve been avoiding video.
I do not love my looks these days, but I did it.
And now I’m cool because I created a live radio show, that’s partially on video, that’s also a podcast, and has been turned into short media clips for other social media channels to drive back to the full video opening of my radio show on You Tube, that may encourage people to go and listen to the rest of the audio of my podcast – and maybe tune in live to the radio show.
Full disclosure: All this effort did not burn a calorie. The live radio show is easy. I’ve been doing live radio so long I could do it in my sleep. It’s all the other new pieces of the media pie – the audio /podcast /video/blog /social media puzzle, that takes quite an effort.
I’ll tell ya this much. AI filters are much cheaper than Botox, and figuring all this out was mentally exhausting.
HOWEVER! “WE… “The Most Interesting Women In the World” cannot stay interesting… if we do not embrace new knowledge and take new risks!
Ok SO – For fun, in addition to risking turning on the video on my iPhone camera, I brought some products from my house to the radio studio that “The Most Interesting WOMAN in the World” might own – for ‘show and tell’.
Centrum Women 50+ MultiGummy (Because we’re doing our best to not fall apart like cheap patio furniture)
Saline Nasal Spray (A product we somehow didn’t grow up with but now feels like a household essential -who knew- right?)
Lume deodorant 72-hour protection! (Once I got past the initial awkward TV commercial with the Founder focusing on where else this stuff can make me smell nice – I decided to just get on board for the 72 hours under my armpits with the tangerine smell so I’d have one less thing to worry about – just in case I forgot. )
A gadgety little YCZ Electric Massage Pro Eye Tool my daughter politely gave me as a gift to try and HELP me. (Warm, glowy, red light-ish thing I have to hold and buzz on my eyebags… fine fine we’re trying new things!)
Costco Italian Extra Virgin Olive Oil (Because it’s a BIG bottle of quality olive oil that tastes great straight from my peeps back in Italy at a great price. If I’m going to “do better,” I want food that tastes like it loves me back)
Morning Kick by Chuck Norris (I took his quiz, got labeled a “rapid ager,” and immediately decided I need Chuck to back me freakin up! He’s still kickin’ so I’m testing it and kinda love it)
Also, because of the nonstop flow of information these days I always come across a lot of ‘who knew’ stuff I find out that I want to share. Like that dry roasted peanuts build your telomeres. Yup. Short telomeres equal short life. So, I stole my Dave’s peanuts for show and tell. He now brags he’s younger because he eats them, and now I have to eat them just to have my telomeres catch up. (I tell ya being interesting is a nonstop sport.)
And because “The Most Interesting Woman in the World” is also likely starting to blow some body parts… I showed off a flyer featuring that great gal Evelyn the physical therapist from ProClinix who’s been workin’ on me helping to get me get back in the game! (which starts with me getting on and off the table).
And because “The Most Interesting Woman in the World” also wants to have as much fun as possible before she’s dead… I also discussed just how many companies are pitching me to come have fun with them. Like the Royal Caribbean cruise line that begs me by mail and by email almost daily to sail away with them again, and again, and again.
YES, YES, “The Most Interesting Woman in the World” – The collective ‘WE’ – want to have more FUN!
We’re open. Where are we going? We’re IN!
Just can’t be the same day we’re already booked. Like on a day we have a Dr. or dentist appointment or are taking someone else to a Dr. or a dentist appt. Can’t be on a day when a plumber is coming to the house or on a day when we have an appointment, meeting, a zoom, going to a kids sports event or when we’re babysitting. Oh, or when we’ve got a hair appt. And it can’t be anything that starts too late at night or requires us to drive far in bad weather.
Other than we’re free. LOL
Here’s what I touched on the rest of the show
The “anti-marketing” protein bar that’s winning the protein wars is simply DAVID and why some brands win without screaming.
Apparently, a protein bar called David is crushing it, partly because it’s doing the opposite of what every loud, neon, influencer-filled protein brand is doing. Simple subway ads. Tons of white space. A sleek package. No drama.
And the numbers? Wild. The brand’s buzz has been building like a cult favorite, with big fundraising and serious sales projections. I first tasted them at a National Women’s Pickleball Foundation event and immediately understood the strategy: get it in people’s mouths first — then they’ll come looking for it later. (That’s marketing.)
Then I found our there’s a New personality label: “Otrovert”
“Wait… is that me?”
Otrovert (from “otro,” meaning “other”) is basically someone who can look extroverted and function socially just fine…but actually recharges best alone or in quieter settings. Observant, sensitive to group dynamics, craving real connection… and sometimes leaving a room feeling oddly separate.
The takeaway? Pressure’s off.
You’re allowed to be social AND need silence. You’re allowed to shine AND need downtime. Be who you are. (I support this message.)
Divorce rings are a thing (and yes, I have thoughts)
And then—because my brain is a pinball machine—we hit a British Vogue trend: divorce ring parties. Women re-setting stones from old engagement rings into new jewelry to mark a fresh chapter. It’s community, champagne, and a little “we’re going to be okay.”
Whenever I speak of divorce, I always like to point out that divorce is painful. A broken dream. No matter who’s fault it is. Even when it’s necessary, it has a long emotional tail. So, if you’re in that chapter: I hope you find your next “happily ever after,” whatever that looks like.
Also: Walking sharks. That’s it. That’s the sentence.
ScienceDaily had me staring into the void with this headline: walking sharks that apparently break rules of reproduction without a measurable increase in energy use.
Do I need this information? No.
Did I share it anyway? Absolutely.
Because that’s what I do. Discover stuff and share it.
Ozempic marketing, sweatpants history, and the courage to turn on the camera
I also touched on:
- Novo Nordisk leaning into a “Get a Mac”-style ad throwback to clarify Ozempic’s FDA-approved uses (marketing is getting very nostalgic lately)
- International Sweatpants Day, and the fact that sweatpants evolved from athletic wear to “I live here now” fashion (and yes, I did also mention the origins)
And threading through all of it was my own little “new era” moment:
I turned on a camera in the studio—even though I’m not exactly thrilled about it—because staying relevant means shifting with the times. It means blending wisdom with new tools, learning new stuff, and continuing to show up.
Because “The Most Interesting Woman in the World” isn’t one person. She’s all of us. Especially those of us learning how not to let getting older get in the way of being us.
The Daily Toast (because I always end the show with a little sparkle)
I closed with a quote I loved from Dr. Steve Maraboli:
“There is nothing more rare, nor more beautiful, than a woman being unapologetically herself…”
Amen, Dr. Maraboli.
And my personal sign-off still stands:
‘Someday’ Has Arrived… It’s Time to Roll!
Onward!
Debbie
You can listen to this ‘full’ episode of the ‘The Debbie Nigro Show’ radio show which originally aired live from the WGCH Radio Studios, or if you’d rather read than listen the transcript of the audio is below.
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AUDIO TRANSCRIPT:
It’s time for the Debbie Nigro Show with Debbie Nigro, who says she’s still a babe, or at least she thinks she still is. That’s right, attitude is everything, and Debbie’s delusionally young. No one sees the glass of Cabernet half full like Debbie. She’s fresh air with a magnetic flair. Some day has arrived, and as far as she’s concerned, it’s time to roll.
0:00:52
(Speaker 1)
Oh my goodness, we have climbed the highest mountains, and we have run through the fields, and though we may still try and run through the fields, we may not be running as fast, and we may be limping. We’ve been out of breath, but we’re giving it our best.
0:01:06
(Speaker 10)
Hi, everybody.
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(I’m Debbie Nigro. This is Wellness Wednesday, keeping the living alive. And I’ve got a very interesting start to the show today because I had a lot of thoughts today in the shower. I do my best thinking in the shower. Good morning, Bob. How are you today?
0:01:19
(Speaker 5)
I’m very good and very cautious here.
0:01:22
(Speaker 1)
Yeah. Well, I was thinking about the most interesting man in the world today in the shower because he’s back, you know. and he’s been gone for like 10 years and they’re like, where have you been?
0:01:33
(Speaker 13)
He’s like, I’m in amnesia.
0:01:34
(Speaker 28)
Did I miss something?
0:01:35
(Speaker 1)
Amnesia. Anyway, if you don’t know who I’m talking about, his name is Jonathan Goldsmith. He’s back as the new Dos Equis commercial spokesperson after 10 years. And what he does is he like, you know, sells beer by playing on nostalgia. And there’s this like tongue in cheek plot about him forgetting his interesting life due to amnesia. And he’s reminded by Dos Equis that he had an interesting life and he’s
0:02:00
(Speaker 1)
most interesting man in the world. So they’re just launching this campaign and they’re trying to re -engage people who knew the guy back when, who loved him. I thought he was great. He’s like very sexy, wise, older gentleman, white hair, you know, the collar open, the jacket and the Dos Equis beard. And the brand always wants you to stay thirsty. That’s his line.
0:02:20
(Speaker 1)
Stay thirsty, my friends. That’s the motto. Stay thirsty, my friends. He’s got a desire for adventure.
0:02:29
(Speaker 3)
After years and years of like, you know, I guess he had mundane stuff going on in his life, and now he’s like, back out.
0:02:35
(Speaker 1)
He was no longer the most interesting. But now he’s like, you know what? I am still the most interesting guy in the world. So that brought me to this thought.
0:02:44
(Speaker 7)
Who is the most interesting woman in the world?
0:02:48
(Speaker 1)
Who is she? Who is she? Now, I took a little guess in my head this morning on who the most interesting woman in the world might be. And here’s what I came up with. She probably has wrinkles like me. She probably wears glasses in some way like me, though she can see far greater these days than she could in the past, right?
0:03:17
(Speaker 1)
When she was younger. She’s most likely still working, either by necessity or choice. She’s likely not the biggest social media person. Maybe doesn’t have a big following, but she’s got very powerful word of mouth. People follow her. When she says something and if someone believes her, they’re going to believe her.
Speaker 1)
0:03:40
(Speaker 1)
She buys everything for everybody. herself, her household, her kids, their household, her grandchildren if she has them, maybe she’s an aunt and she’s buying for the nieces and nephews. She’s old school but open to new things. ideas. She’s open to new products and new brands. So this guy, this most interesting man in the world, he’s over there, right?
0:04:06
(Speaker 1)
And he’s drinking beer like he’s got no cares in the world. He’s just figuring out his next adventure. Meanwhile, these women, most interesting women in the world, are killing themselves to make life great for everybody else while also trying to stay alive while doing it. So I wanted to take a minute today to talk about this most interesting woman in the world. She knows more than your consultant, has better instincts than your algorithm, and still puts family first. Who is this woman?
0:04:35
(Speaker 1)
Well, she’s a lot of women. And I’m going to make a point about the kinds of things this woman buys, right? Because she’s not over there drinking beer until she finishes all this stuff. So who is she? Well, she’s trying to stay alive. And I brought my vitamins, Centrum, Women 50 +, Multigummy, Sports Heart, Brain Health, Eye Health, Bone Strength.
0:04:57
(Speaker 1)
Okay, we can do a gummy if you got good teeth. She is trying to deal with things that come along and reads about all new products and what she should do, shouldn’t do, what her family should do. And she probably may have bought something like this, which is saline for your nose, which we never thought of years before. Okay. She probably has a lot of products she used forever, but is open to new products because somebody said she doesn’t have to use deodorant for 72 hours. Okay, so she tried this one.
0:05:30
(Speaker 1)
And when I first saw this Lume deodorant, I thought, well, that’s just like, who does a commercial about body parts and deodorant? I’m now the proud owner of Lume, smooth, solid, clean tangerine, because I don’t have to worry about my deodorant failing me anymore. That was a new product that came into my life, okay? My daughter thought I should try harder. with some of my beauty routines. So she recommended a product and gave me one for Christmas that requires me to now take something out that is a laser.
0:06:00
(Speaker 1)
Whoa, has a little red, what’s it got? This is a cool little thing. It’s a YCZ product and it’s electric massage pro excellent eye cream firming eye area reduces fine lines brightens and revitalizes and it’s got this thing Which it’s a like, you know heats it up and you see it turning red. Oh Okay, so I’m gonna try that trying a new product, right? She probably wants to get something on sale or get a deal, but she doesn’t want to give up quality I like to recommend this new olive oil that I bought at Costco, you know, why because it’s a hundred percent extra Italian extra virgin olive oil, and I read all the ingredients, and it was produced from the Italian grown olives. I’m Italian, I’m sticking with my people.
0:06:46
(Speaker 1)
Cold extracted, it is extra virgin olive oil, and I read all about it, and quite frankly, it’s the best olive oil I ever tasted, okay? So I bought that at Costco. I never bought that before. I’m trying to do better, like a lot of my most interesting other counterparts, so I tried a new product, Morning Kick. from Chuck Norris. He let me believe that I was rapid aging.
0:07:08
(Speaker 1)
I got no time to rapid age. I gotta back it up. He said if I take this, I’m gonna feel better. I do. I bought his product. Okay, I’ll let you know how it shakes out.
0:07:17
(Speaker 1)
Now, women love to snack, so why not snack on something that’s going to build your telomeres? Okay, there you go.
0:07:22
(Speaker 27)
Dry roasted peanuts will build your telomeres, which means you will live longer.
0:07:25
(Speaker 20)
Oh, the sign of longevity is those telomeres.
0:07:28
(Speaker 1)
I didn’t know. These are Dave’s. I stole them today. All right, what else? They buy for kids. Every other minute, I’m spending money on my grandkids, right?
0:07:35
(Speaker 1)
Make sure when they come over, they have something. If I go there, I have something, so I’m buying stuff for them. I’m going for rehab, which is fantastic, because I feel a lot better, and I would recommend rehab place to another woman who was going through some body part issues, because this generation is blowing a body part a week. That makes us very interesting. I get all kinds of stuff from cruise companies.
0:07:56
(Speaker 1)
They want me to have more fun. OK, I’m interested. I want to have more fun. I want to live more life. You know why? Because some day has arrived, and it’s time to roll.
0:08:06
(Speaker 1)
So I just wanted to address. who the most interesting woman in the world might be. And she is a lot of women, many women, a woman who might have bought her outfit or a cool jacket at a thrift shop or a consignment shop because she couldn’t believe how cool it was. Like, who has a this kind of thing? And then maybe a turtleneck to match the cool inside.
0:08:33
(Speaker 15)
She’s a woman who may have not had time for a manicure, but said, who cares?
0:08:38
(Speaker 1)
I’m going to wear all the rings anyway. So what? I don’t care because we’re in a different place in life. This is one of the biggest demographics in the world right now, the women I’m talking about, who are in fact the most interesting women in the world. So I salute you all today, whoever you are out there, and I know that we should be getting more recognition, and well, if we had time to stop and drink a dos Equis , we probably would, but maybe later.
0:09:06
(Speaker 26)
That’s what I want to say about that.
0:09:07
(Speaker 5)
So Bobby, that’s my opening of the show.
0:09:10
(Speaker 1)
Fantastic. Well -timed as well. Just because it’s Wellness Wednesday, right? And the longevity, wellness market and just medical advancements, they are booming. going full blast ahead with AI, being able to detect diseases earlier with AI coming up with ways for people to get medications to the consumer faster, right, that might do something. There are food companies who are trying to sell us protein and everything.
0:09:43
(Speaker 1)
There are people trying to get us to go on trips. There are people trying to get the money that the generation I’m talking about has inherited or is going to give to somebody. There is a lot going on and we need to know that they get it. and that the most interesting man in the world. Yes, yes, we love him. But we need our own moment here in time.
0:10:05
(Speaker 1)
If that’s okay with everybody. Okay, when I come back, I’ve got a story about a protein bar that’s doing something really innovative out there and killing it in the markets. Very simple marketing, but it’s working like crazy. It’s got one name, one name. It’s a man’s name. When I come back on the Debbie Nigro Show.
0:10:46
(Speaker 1)
It’s what I’m doing over here. I’m reading a story this morning about who’s winning the protein wars in terms of, you know, those protein bars that are out there. You go to a store, get a cup of coffee. There’s a thousand protein bars to choose from. It’s David. There you go.
0:11:02
(Speaker 1)
David winning the protein brand wars by saying absolutely nothing at all. What do you mean by that, Debbie? I was reading a story in Fast Company, right? And everywhere you turn, there’s protein, protein, protein, protein. It’s like the obsession. Everybody’s obsessed with protein.
0:11:17
(Speaker 1)
There’s Instagram ads about protein recipes and Chipotle’s got protein bowls now. Starbucks has protein in their drinks. Pepsi’s got… I don’t know. Everybody’s got protein. And it’s starting to sound like, you know, a huge bunch of influencers trying to get your attention for things.
0:11:35
(Speaker 1)
But earlier this month, David, have you seen these protein bars? They started a print campaign in the New York City subway system that had just plain images of their bars, like a little bar in the middle of all this white space, right? And where all these other protein companies are like, ah, big energetic packaging and colorful and all that stuff. Just very simple little bar.
0:11:56
(Speaker 25)
And if you haven’t seen it, I’ll describe it to you.
0:11:58
(Speaker 1)
It’s a, um, a very sleek gold package. Okay. And it has a, uh, a wooden, a little thing on it. And I don’t want that thing, a little macro nutrient, you know, descriptions of what’s in there and, um, little flavors, different flavors, no frills. So. This is what they’re calling anti -marketing.
0:12:20
(Speaker 1)
That is that. highly effective marketing. All right. And the founder, Peter Rahal, is just killing it with this thing. Every brand is trying to win you over, but David didn’t care. They didn’t care.
0:12:33
(Speaker 1)
They just wanted to get the point that they exist. And it’s a superior product, to be honest with you. I love it.
0:12:40
(Speaker 5)
And when I buy one, it’s totally satiated, delicious.
0:12:45
(Speaker 1)
I like the chocolate chip cookie dough one. You ever tried protein barba? I assume that’s what Kind Bars are. Kind Bars were the originals. They were way back. David is a protein bar.
0:12:56
(Speaker 1)
They only got really popular in the last year. They debuted like a September ago, almost like a cult of people, David Bars, and they can’t wait for the next flavor, the next innovation. When they first launched the company, if I read correctly, they sold more than a million protein bars the first week. That’s when you know you’re onto something. And by the following May, from when I was reading in Fast Company, they raised about $75 million. And then a New York Times report came out and said they were on track to hit $180 million in retail sales.
0:13:30
(Speaker 1)
this year. Okay, there you go. Good luck. Go David. There you go. I actually first tasted them because they were at an event that I went to last year, the National Women’s Pickleball Foundation event in Florida.
0:13:44
(Speaker 1)
They had donated protein bars and they were on all, you know, as part of all the donations. And so it was in my little bag. So I had them like, oh, this is good. So many things that when you taste them first, right? Then you want more of them. That’s a really good strategy.
0:13:59
(Speaker 1)
All right. Okay, I’m changing topics. I need music because I like to change the topic with a little music. This is a good story today. It had me thinking about what I am. Here’s what it means to be an introvert, extrovert, or otrovert.
0:14:16
(Speaker 1)
What’s an atrovert? I don’t know. I had to read the story. Huffington Post.
0:14:20
(Speaker 14)
Are you an atrovert?
0:14:22
(Speaker 1)
I might be one, Bobby. I might be one. How do you spell that? O -T -R -O -V -E -R -T. Atrovert. It’s a new personality type.
0:14:37
(Speaker 5)
Have you ever taken those personality tests like where do you fit in? Yeah.
0:14:40
(Speaker 1)
Are you an introvert? Are you an extrovert? So it’s not outtrovert? Ah -trovert. Ah -trovert. Okay.
0:14:46
(Speaker 5)
So most people kind of know what they are.
0:14:50
(Speaker 9)
I think there’s ambiverts too.
0:14:52
(Speaker 1)
I don’t know.
0:14:52
(Speaker 24)
That was another term that came up.
0:14:54
(Speaker 1)
Ambivalent. Ambiverts or whatever. Ambiverts are like extroverted introverts. Okay. But ah -trovert. new phrase, new word coined by Dr. Rami Kaminsky in his 2025 book called The Gift of Not Belonging.
0:15:14
(Speaker 1)
And sort of pop psychology, you know, kind of new thing out there. And therapists were sort of weighing in like, what is an altruvert? how similar to and different from introvert and Okay, I don’t know what’s not true. How does it come here? Okay, if you this is again, I’m just sharing what I just learned That’s what I do on this show. I read stuff and I’m like really did you know about this if you feel like an introvert and present like an extrovert you might be an altruvert and So you don’t know yourself very well.
0:15:50
(Speaker 1)
This is interesting.
0:15:51
(Speaker 5)
An autrovert is somebody who might appear extroverted, meaning they gain energy from the outside sources and relationships, and often do not seem to need as much alone time, but who actually has more introverted nervous system.
0:16:10
(Speaker 1)
That’s by Amelia Kelly, who’s a trauma -informed therapist, author, podcaster, and researcher. She said, it describes someone who recharges best alone or with less stimulation, yet well -adapted at expressing it externally.
0:16:23
(Speaker 5)
I might be an introvert. I think I might be one, by the sound of that. I need time alone.
0:16:28
(Speaker 1)
If I don’t calm down, I need silence. I mean, I enjoy seeing people.
0:16:32
(Speaker 5)
I went to a thing last night, and I had a great time.
0:16:35
(Speaker 1)
Right. But I’ve got to admit, there were too many times I was sitting there, not ready to talk because you didn’t know what I wanted to say. Oh, see, I never have that problem. Once I’m out, I’m out. All right, you’re not an introvert. Well, no, that’s not true.
0:16:46
(Speaker 1)
I recharge best alone. When I’m alone, I’m silent, I’m thinking in my head, I don’t like talking on the phone too much, I don’t like talking to other people, I don’t want to hear stimulation, I just want to, you know, I need to regroup for when I’m out and about or doing this or whatever I do. She said, what that might look like, an introvert, this is interesting, right, is someone who’s comfortable being the center of attention at times, appears confident, functions well socially, but who also needs more down time to return to baseline. I found that very interesting. very loud. I could relate to that.
0:17:17
(Speaker 18)
She said the similarity lies in where they regain their energy.
0:17:20
(Speaker 1)
center and sense of well -being, often alone or in quieter settings where they can engage with fewer people in a deeper way, which I prefer. The difference is that introverts are often more comfortable and skilled in social environments, especially when those settings require expression of leadership, like a company party, managing a child’s birthday party, and the specific introvert -extrovert combo can make them feel like an outsider. This term is key to what an outrovert is. In fact, otro is Spanish for other. Oh, I see. It’s not because they’re antisocial or disengaged.
0:17:56
(Speaker 1)
None of those reasons, according to another therapist named Cheryl Groskopf. They’re often very, very observant and attuned and sensitive to all the social dynamics that can leave them feeling like they’re always standing kind of like a step back, right? They want deep, genuine connection while also feeling chronically unseen, misunderstood or dismissed in social groups. Maybe it could be you. So, outroverts may enjoy conversation, connection, and even group settings, but still leave feeling unanchored or separate. They didn’t just quite register the environment as safe, resonant, or mutual.
0:18:25
(Speaker 1)
Okay, we got a new thing. Okay. Basically, the therapists are like, all right, look. Everybody’s always like, oh, yeah, yeah, those extroverts, terrific, terrific qualities, you know. Okay, continue behaving, that’s great, great. Extrovert behaviors are great.
0:18:44
(Speaker 1)
Introvert ones are, too, and they want you to know it’s perfectly okay and good to have introvert moments. Just be, okay?
0:18:52
(Speaker 4)
Pressure’s off. Just be, okay?
0:18:53
(Speaker 1)
Take care of yourself. That’s all I want to say about that, Bobby. I got to move on.
0:18:56
(Speaker 5)
I got to move on.
0:18:57
(Speaker 1)
I got to move on.
0:18:58
(Speaker 5)
Okay.
0:19:00
(Speaker 1)
Some of you are wearing a lot of rings today.
0:19:02
(Speaker 3)
You say you got all kinds of rings on.
0:19:04
(Speaker 22)
Don’t look at my manicure, I didn’t get one.
0:19:10
(Speaker 5)
Have you seen that new nail polish?
0:19:11
(Speaker 1)
Which one?
0:19:12
(Speaker 13)
You put on these nails, and then you put a little box over it that puts some infrared light on it, and it changes the color.
0:19:19
(Speaker 14)
Mood nails?
0:19:22
(Speaker 1)
I suppose you could say that, but the way it does it, it instantly, you push a button, bang, it’s a different color. Darn. There’s no waiting for it to happen. How did you find that and I didn’t find it?
0:19:30
(Speaker 10)
I saw it on TV.
0:19:31
(Speaker 5)
I was watching the Today Show and there it was.
0:19:34
(Speaker 1)
I’m too busy looking in the thing to see how I look in the camera.
0:19:36
(Speaker 5)
I’ve got the camera on today.
0:19:37
(Speaker 1)
That’s a really bold move on my part. It’s the, I don’t care, I have to do what I do, and since everybody says do this, I’m like, alright, whatever.
0:19:46
(Speaker 23)
Like, right?
0:19:48
(Speaker 1)
Okay. I don’t like my hair though. I noticed you keep playing with it. I know, whatever, okay. So I’m doing the ring thing for a reason because, let me just fix my hair here. I do this all the time.
0:19:58
(Speaker 1)
This is what I do in the car, in the mirror, at home. You know, headphones make you a little flat -headed. Oh, my hair’s parting wrong, whatever. I was reading this article about rings on the middle finger and what they mean. It was from Vogue magazine. Oh.
0:20:14
(Speaker 1)
And what it means is that somebody is trying to let you know they are divorced. They’re wearing their ring on their middle finger. Inside the booming market for divorce rings. I didn’t know that. Did you know that? No.
0:20:34
(Speaker 1)
Wow, this is from, again, Vogue. British Vogue. British folk, and they start off with, oh, you peer through the window of Anoushka Duka’s London boutique in the evening and you might find women and spy them pouring over diamonds and sipping champagne, but they aren’t congregating to peruse engagement rings or push presents. They are toasting the signing of divorce papers in the prospect of turning the stones and the settings and the emotional scars of their wedding bands or engagement rings into a poignant new piece of jewelry. They said it’s fun rather than miserable. this particular woman who is a noosh.
0:21:10
(Speaker 1)
Duka, has been hosting divorce ring parties for about three years now and she brings together London’s top divorce lawyers and their clients and there’s a lot of laughing, camaraderie, and it’s really about bringing about community together, they said. So yeah, they’re doing that. It’s a trend. A lot of jewelers have been approached to create divorce rings. There you go. There you go.
0:21:35
(Speaker 1)
It’s happening.
0:21:36
(Speaker 5)
Divorce is a broken dream, though.
0:21:38
(Speaker 1)
I wanted to say that. Somebody always gets hurt.
0:21:43
(Speaker 22)
Nobody gets married to not have it last.
0:21:46
(Speaker 13)
The intention of marriage and coming together in those vows is that you believe at the moment it’s going to last forever.
0:21:56
(Speaker 1)
So when it doesn’t, it’s deeply disturbing and disruptive to everybody’s lives and everybody who knows them and around them, the children, the in -laws, the ex -laws, everybody, and it’s painful, even if you’re the person who wants the divorce. I don’t think anybody would disagree. Ending a relationship, and it’s very dramatic, and it’s a long tail. Well, they’re the first ones that have to confront it, and they have to confront it by themselves pretty much. Yeah, it’s a long tail. So yeah, divorce is a broken dream, but we wish everybody another happily ever after.
0:22:29
(Speaker 1)
What?
0:22:30
(Speaker 21)
Yeah, of course.
0:22:30
(Speaker 5)
Everybody wants a happily ever after.
0:22:32
(Speaker 1)
I still don’t like how I look on this camera.
0:22:34
(Speaker 12)
All right, there you go.
0:22:35
(Speaker 1)
I’m going to sit up.
0:22:36
(Speaker 20)
Can’t see my cute jacket.
0:22:38
(Speaker 1)
There it is. I’m going to show you. How cool is this, Bobby?
0:22:40
(Speaker 19)
It really is.
0:22:41
(Speaker 1)
Where else can you wear that?
0:22:42
(Speaker 6)
Right, only here.
0:22:43
(Speaker 1)
Oh, OK. No, actually, I wore it to some concert thing on Friday night. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, we went up to a place called the Turning Point in Pyrmont, New York. You know about that? No.
0:22:55
(Speaker 1)
You ever know about a guy named Bill Kerchin? No. Commander Cody, Bill Kirchner, back in the day, is now out touring. He’s like 73 years old. He is kick -butt. What an enjoyable night.
0:23:07
(Speaker 1)
What a talent. Oh my God, the guitar. So yeah, it was packed to the rafters and I had this crazy outfit on, but we got there too late and couldn’t sit at the bar and it was packed and I had to stand and nobody saw my outfit. All right, whatever. Whatever. Okay, I’m changing topics.
0:23:19
(Speaker 1)
I gotta move on. Debbie Nigro, moving on. Hi, this is Debbie Nigro Show. Wellness Wednesday, keeping the living alive. Yeah, I’m trying for everybody, you know? I really am.
0:23:32
(Speaker 5)
So much going on in the world.
0:23:33
(Speaker 1)
I do my very, very best to stay away from politics and religion.
0:23:38
(Speaker 5)
because I still believe there’s plenty more to talk about, plus I’m not a controversial human being, and I don’t like controversy. Did you know that about me?
0:23:45
(Speaker 1)
I just do not like controversy. It makes me very, very upset. I’m not good.
0:23:50
(Speaker 18)
I’d rather give in and walk away, or if I’m feeling agitated, I have my 24 -hour rule, you know, and I go, okay, step away.
0:23:59
(Speaker 1)
I’m still learning that, I realize now. I like the 24 -hour rule. Every time you hear me, like, challenge something you’ve spoken about. Right. That’s me not recognizing that you don’t like controversy. Oh yeah, yeah.
0:24:11
(Speaker 1)
I don’t like controversy. I don’t mind being disagreed with. Oh. No, no, I have no problem with that. But like anxiety provoking stressful controversy that’s negative has negative energy. It makes me very upset.
0:24:22
(Speaker 1)
You know, I’m an empath, I feel things too much, blah, blah, blah. So I try and keep it light and hopeful. And doesn’t mean it’s dull. Because there’s a lot going on in the world. Too much going on, you know, and a lot of it that I want to share comes from being who I am at this stage of life. You know, I have lived a lot.
0:24:41
(Speaker 1)
I good, bad and ugly. I read a lot. So I have some knowledge that others might not have. I’ve talked to probably more people than you who are a lot smarter than me and I have an ability to retain a lot of that knowledge. So I feel it’s my job to share and I like to educate and commiserate and hang out and I definitely like to have fun. You know I like to have fun.
0:25:00
(Speaker 1)
or I’ll be doing this video thing today trying to be cute, which I’m not, but who cares? Anyway, we got a lot to talk about still on the Wellness Wednesday edition of the Debbie Nigro Show. Yeah, I’ll be right back. Hey guys, I’m Debbie Nigro. Good to be with you guys. This is the Wellness Wednesday version of the Debbie Nigro Show, keeping the living alive.
0:25:46
(Speaker 1)
And I am newly crowned, self -crowned, the working grandma on the run. I used to be the working mom on the run, but I’ve graduated now. And what I like about being where I am right now and being here doing this show is that you can tell by the fact that I threw the video on I still have plenty of wrinkles and nothing’s changed there. I don’t have nail polish on but I have crazy rings and I’m wearing kooky outfits that I’m at a place in life where these are things that used to not used to drag me down before right and I’m just not allowing that anymore because I know as you know at a certain point in life what happens someday has arrived and it’s time to roll. So we don’t have a lot of time left for that. Somebody had a great explanation of this the other day.
0:26:33
(Speaker 1)
A gentleman I met along the way who I admire, terrific brain investor, visionary in the technology space and now in the longevity space. He was in a consumer electronic technology show in Vegas and was talking about the longevity market and he said, look, you got to think about this like a football game. It doesn’t matter what happened in the last quarters. It only matters what happens in the fourth quarter. So we’re kind of in the fourth quarter.
0:27:01
(Speaker 1)
What can I do about this? I’m going to play the game hard as we can.
0:27:04
(Speaker 17)
Okay, so I’m still in the game.
0:27:07
(Speaker 1)
A lot of people still in the game.
0:27:09
(Speaker 14)
The way the world is changing, and it is changing as evidenced by the cover of the Time magazine issue that was just out, the longevity issue, and the new old age.
0:27:21
(Speaker 1)
What is it? Is it forever? My gosh, I mean, you have to pay attention. You have to see what’s going on. And still in the game is a very loud phrase for so many people because nobody wants to be out of the game. You want to be out of the game?
0:27:33
(Speaker 1)
Who wants to be out of the game? It’s no fun sitting on the bench watching everybody else play. Is it? Ow! fun at all. So you got to stay as healthy as you can. You got to move as much as you can.
0:27:45
(Speaker 1)
You got to have as many social connections as you can. You got to have great experiences. If your mind is still working, you have to be able to use it. You have to have passion, purpose, and for many people, you have to have money because that runs out if all this longevity stuff’s going on. So a lot of people still working. A lot of people still in the game.
0:28:03
(Speaker 1)
And a lot of these people have great wisdom and great open -mindedness to share it and collaborate with those who are younger and more exposed to the newfangled stuff that’s going on and teach and learn and they want to embrace. I want to know how to use AI better. I want to know how to connect better with people who, you know, how do we do in this? So yeah, and then, you know, resilience is something that most people who’ve been around for a while kind of can teach a lot of people. Family should come first. And humor.
0:28:37
(Speaker 1)
My gosh, there’s been a million studies. Humor will save you. Trust me. It saved me. Gotta have a great sense of humor. Attitude is everything, right Bob?
0:28:47
(Speaker 1)
You know that. I’ve taught you that over the years. I have that, you know. Okay. So there’s been a lot of breakthroughs in technology and a lot of stuff in health tech going on. There’s scientific journals I read those suckers to in reports.
0:29:01
(Speaker 1)
And they actually are questioning whether this longevity business is over -promising. Are they over -promising and under -delivering?
0:29:13
(Speaker 16)
That is the question.
0:29:14
(Speaker 5)
And one of those people that was talking to this is a guy who was in an article that was in the New York Post Wellness section, which is one of the places I check every week because I kind of love their wellness section.
0:29:23
(Speaker 1)
And the article by Lara Lewington was, is the longevity movement promising too much? I reported on cutting edge innovation for decades. Here’s what actually works. That was the name of the article, right? There’s a guy, Brian Johnson, you heard about him? He’s paying all kinds of money to be like the guy who’s done everything possible to stay young and keep his body from aging.
0:29:46
(Speaker 1)
You know about him? No. Okay. How’s he doing? Oh, he looks good. A little weird, but okay.
0:29:57
(Speaker 1)
I don’t tell you what he was tracking for a while. His manliness, how often it showed up. He was busy tracking that for a little while. My goodness.
0:30:07
(Speaker 5)
He was busy.
0:30:09
(Speaker 1)
So the girl she’s talking about, how she was in 2023 making a documentary film about breakthroughs in longevity and um you know she had a lot of biotech labs and experiments uh and and investigated the latest aging science she um she went to this guy’s house to uh in LA and um was the first person to film his regimen manly bodily part tracking must have been a very interesting visit okay she’s an author and a journalist for two decades. Cute little smile. But she was fascinated with his pursuit of eternal youth. That’s what he was after, eternal youth. Everybody’s been following this guy.
0:30:55
(Speaker 1)
He was chasing it, chasing it, chasing it, chasing it. Brian Johnson. He did 19 hour fasts. How old the guy is, do we know? I’m not exactly sure. I should look up that, but this guy was doing 19 -hour fasts and like 50 different supplements a day.
0:31:11
(Speaker 1)
I get hungry after two hours.
0:31:13
(Speaker 15)
I once had to do a 24 -hour juice cleanse, and I was like, I miss it.
0:31:21
(Speaker 1)
I actually had three days I had to have only liquids over the last six months. It’s not bad once you get past a certain hump, and then I was like, I could do this all day long. I dropped a lot of weight. You don’t have any food in there. You’re like, woo -hoo.
0:31:36
(Speaker 5)
Anyway, a lot of tests, he was doing himself, going to bed at 8 .30, then sleeping alone.
0:31:42
(Speaker 1)
I think he didn’t want other people’s germs on.
0:31:44
(Speaker 5)
I don’t know what his problem.
0:31:46
(Speaker 1)
She said she wanted to be just a little bit like him, to her surprise. Okay. Anyway, she went on to talk about a lot of things in the longevity market, and she really dug in. She said she is actually coming up to the fact, she went, you know, all over. that maybe we are believing that they can do more for us than they can at this point in history, okay? Somebody who she talked to, Dr. Jordan Schlain, this is from the article in the New York Post, a very prominent physician and a healthcare innovator, told her that the overhyped practice of longevity isn’t helping anybody live longer or better.
0:32:29
(Speaker 1)
And the only people doing better from these things, you know, are the people selling them.
0:32:39
(Speaker 14)
That could be an exaggeration too, you know?
0:32:41
(Speaker 1)
Yeah, who knows, right? Because, I mean, I think all of these things definitely have an effect, but may not be as big an effect as… Well, look what I bought, because I took a little test on Chuck Norris’ site, his wife. They’re like, oh, we’re still rocking.
0:32:58
(Speaker 5)
And I took a little test and it came up that I was a rapid ager.
0:33:00
(Speaker 1)
I’m like, oh, oh my God, I’m a rapid ager.
0:33:03
(Speaker 9)
I better buy his stuff.
0:33:05
(Speaker 1)
I was looking for a green drink. It seemed to hit all the The Bells. All right. I do feel better.
0:33:10
(Speaker 13)
It’s got probiotics and power greens and ashwagandha.
0:33:12
(Speaker 1)
I had to look up ashwagandha.
0:33:13
(Speaker 11)
Like, am I going to get an allergic reaction to ashwagandha?
0:33:16
(Speaker 5)
Let me know because I’m taking ashwagandha myself.
0:33:18
(Speaker 8)
No, no, it’s good.
0:33:19
(Speaker 12)
All right.
0:33:19
(Speaker 1)
It’s one of the great things for you. So there you go. She came up with a line and I’ll wrap it up on this.
0:33:29
(Speaker 11)
She said, we have to ask ourselves whether we really want to live longer or do we want to live better and better health longer?
0:33:40
(Speaker 1)
Yeah. You know, at a certain point, how old do you want to be if it isn’t working the way it used to work? Anything. That’s a good point. Right? Yeah.
0:33:53
(Speaker 1)
You know, let’s move grandma to the living room. All right, here’s a broom. She’s a little thin now. Sweep her into the next room. Okay, that’s all I want to say about that. We can move on, Bobby.
0:34:05
(Speaker 1)
I don’t want to talk about that anymore because I got to move on. I like a lot of science. There’s something, scientific reports I read.
0:34:15
(Speaker 5)
What do I do in reading science?
0:34:16
(Speaker 1)
What am I going to do with this information, the scientific reports? Like, where am I going with this?
0:34:21
(Speaker 5)
I do read these things, and there’s all kinds of downloaded scientific reports, but I don’t know what I get out of most of them.
0:34:30
(Speaker 1)
I mostly forget what I read because it’s like, oh, they’re in, you know, clinical terms. What’s Science Daily? That’s the one I think, because they every day at least have something new to talk about. Science Daily, what was I reading this morning? Well, they do a lot of research news and they find crazy things out. Walking sharks break the rules of reproduction.
0:34:58
(Speaker 1)
What the heck? I never knew I was going to have this visual in my head. Did you expect that?
0:35:02
(Speaker 5)
Walking sharks?
0:35:03
(Speaker 10)
Yeah.
0:35:04
(Speaker 5)
Epaulette sharks.
0:35:05
(Speaker 1)
E -P -A -U -L -E -T -T -E. Sharks can reproduce without any measurable increase in energy use. Stunning researchers who expected egg laying to be costly. Scientists track their metabolism, blood and hormone levels through the entire… Walking shark breaks the rules of reproduction. I didn’t even know shark…
0:35:23
(Speaker 5)
Did you know sharks could even walk?
0:35:25
(Speaker 1)
a particular shark is walking around, that would not be good to run into in the grocery store.
0:35:29
(Speaker 5)
There’s that, and did you say something about laying eggs?
0:35:31
(Speaker 1)
Yeah.
0:35:32
(Speaker 9)
I thought sharks were live birth creatures.
0:35:35
(Speaker 1)
I don’t know. I’m looking at a shark with legs. They actually have legs. It’s an evolutionary trick.
0:35:42
(Speaker 8)
Isn’t evolution interesting?
0:35:43
(Speaker 1)
Like how animals and people just grow things to adapt to their environment. I often wonder if I, the difference I think, I think I see with, with pet animals is that the evolution, you know? Well, the most amazing thing I see is they look like the people who own them. Well, there’s that. They look like, how do they look like their owners?
0:36:00
(Speaker 7)
I don’t know.
0:36:01
(Speaker 1)
How do they look like? Most people, pets look like them. That’s ridiculous. Okay. Okay. Yeah, they just, I don’t know.
0:36:13
(Speaker 1)
It’s a new discovery. I don’t know if I could spend all my days watching a walking shark give birth. That would just bore me to tears, but some people find that really interesting, Bobby. I don’t know about you. All right. I can change topics now.
0:36:27
(Speaker 1)
I don’t know why I had to even bring that up. That’s such mellow music for me. So I’m reading about this new ad for Ozempic and it’s bizarre. Because, you know, like I said, everybody’s trying to sell you something to lose weight, stay younger. But this is helping a lot of people who have diabetes and who need to lose weight for health reasons. I’m all for getting rid of the obesity as the number one big problem in the United States for kids, for adults, for anybody.
0:37:00
(Speaker 1)
So I’m on board with the medication for those it helps, okay? But Novo Nordisk is trying to get Ozempic. set apart from the other GLP ones that are out there. And they have a new ad campaign and they’re bringing back an Apple campaign that me personally, I’m like, really? All right. Anyway, it involves Justin Long and John Hodgman.
0:37:25
(Speaker 1)
And what they’re trying to do in this ad is highlight Ozempic’s FDA approved uses. All right. Now, these guys were in Apple’s very, you know, humorous get a Mac campaign back in the day. Do you know who I’m talking about on TV? Anyway, they’re running ads that play off that Get a Mac campaign to try and distinguish Ozempic from the other GLP drugs taken for type 2 diabetes and the new ads bring these guys back together. And they’re just saying that this has FDA approval for more indications than other GLP ones when taken for type 2 diabetes.
0:38:02
(Speaker 1)
So they’re kind of like this is we were there while we’re over here over here. We don’t ask 2025 was a very difficult year for that company because their patent started to expire. That’s what happens, you know for some a glutide which is the key ingredient in Ozempic. and their other weight loss treatment, Wogovi. So it focused on expanding the market overall, and they lost exclusivity in a lot of markets. and they’re going to now they have all this competition.
0:38:26
(Speaker 1)
So they’re going to roll now. came out with a pill form of Bugovi, right? They think that’s going to help. And this new ad, this new themed ad, there’s only one Ozempic, so you’ll be seeing that coming very soon. Okay, kind of irreverent. All right, that’s that story.
0:38:42
(Speaker 1)
One more story of the day here on the Debbie Nigro Show. Wellness Wednesday, keeping the living alive, back right after this, and of course, the Daily Toast send -off as well. Hi guys, Debbie Nyong ‘o. Yeah, it’s National Sweatpants Day today. Actually, International Sweatpants Day here on my Wellness Wednesday edition of the show. That’ll keep that living alive.
0:39:21
(Speaker 1)
Everybody’s wearing sweatpants. Did you notice? I went shopping to look for a pair of leggings. I’m like, wait, there’s only sweatpants here and sweatpants tops to match the sweatpants bottom. It’s a big story out there in fashion. I don’t know when it started exactly.
0:39:34
(Speaker 1)
Actually, I did. I do, I do, I lied. It started a long time ago in 1882. Do you know about this? I know. Who knew?
0:39:43
(Speaker 1)
I knew. I’m telling you. Émilie Commissé founded the activewear company Le Coq Sportif in end time France and they’re credited with inventing sweatpants in the 1920s. They were designed primarily for athletes. And then through the years, you know things change what pins have been called many things track pants sweats jogging pants, you know It goes so they’re comfortable, right? They are designed to keep athletes warm and especially outdoors on chilly days But they were made for exercise.
0:40:15
(Speaker 1)
Hmm doesn’t mean that they stayed for exercise. They are going everywhere with exercise I’m sure COVID had a lot to do with it, but now people are like, you know what? I ain’t getting dressed. I’m wearing sweatpants today. So there you go.
0:40:26
(Speaker 1)
International Sweatpants Day. One of the most comfortable pieces of clothing ever invented. We celebrate today, but I’m not wearing sweatpants. I should have worn it, but instead I’m wearing my very cool Asian -inspired, I don’t know, can I stand up and show you? How cool am I? Look at this, I found it.
0:40:43
(Speaker 1)
I know. All right.
0:40:45
(Speaker 6)
What I want to tell you before I leave you guys today, I just wanted to share with you how brave this is of me to be doing a video right now.
0:40:54
(Speaker 1)
And I’m doing some like fits and starts.
0:40:55
(Speaker 3)
I told Bob, I don’t know how this is going today. It’s probably a little bit off base, but I am trying to stay relevant, right?
0:41:03
(Speaker 1)
And in order to stay relevant, you have to move with the times. And I think that’s one of the great things about being around for a while. You should have enough wisdom to know when you have to shift and educate yourself and learn new things while embracing the things you already know, which hopefully you’re going to share. That’s your job, is to share the wisdom and then to embrace the new information and put it all together into nice, blender mix of information and move on, right, and do the best you can. So yeah, I am representing the most interesting women in the world because that most interesting man in the world, he’s just one guy. The most interesting woman in the world, she’s all of us.
0:41:42
(Speaker 1)
Okay, I want to wrap this show up, Bobby, can I wrap this show up with my Daily Toast? Absolutely. Play that. Attention, everyone. It’s the Daily Toast on the Debbie Nigro Show.
0:41:52
(Speaker 2)
Okay, I got a great quote today, and it’s from Dr. Steve Maraboli. Don’t know him personally, but what he said is, there is nothing more rare, nor more beautiful, than a woman being unapologetically herself, comfortable in her perfect imperfection. To me, that is the true essence of beauty. And what I will leave you with personally is, some day, arrived girls and boys, it’s time to roll. See you next time on the Debbie Nigro Show here at WGCH in the studio today and online, the digital live stream WGCH .
0:42:26
(Speaker 2)
com. You can follow me at DebbieNigro . com, that’s my website. On Instagram at The Real Debbie Nigro, Facebook, The Debbie Nigro Show. I’m on LinkedIn. That’s all I got for you.
0:42:35
Stay well, see you next time. No time for having fun. Time will wait for no one. Get the day’s work done. We’re in this boat together, you know. And one ain’t one, and that’s a no.
