If You Don’t Know About NYC Singer Songwriter Eugene Ruffolo I’m Hoping You Will Now.
He’s not just any talent. Eugene is a prolific and deeply personal songwriter.
The world could use more of him. His music calms people down.
A mutual friend who went to school with him in NY back when, had no clue about his talent until a zoom decades later during Covid. He then became addicted to his music and kept insisting I needed to listen.
So, I did. I swear I could feel his music in my veins. I was taken aback by the beauty of his vocal gift and the genius of his songwriting. As good as any famous musical artist I’ve ever enjoyed. I honestly was shocked I had not heard about him. Apparently even Kenny Loggins was shocked he didn’t know about him after both collaborated on a segment of someone else’s record.
In addition to his own songwriting, Eugene has shared studios and stages with many famous artists, drawn to his unique vocal talents. People like Garth Brooks and Tony Bennett and Kenny Loggins, Run-DMC, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Livingston Taylor, and Spyro Gyra, just to name a few.
He covers themes like forgiveness, the precious bonds of friendship, and the search for existential truth. Among his many worldwide accolades his music has been referred to as “the jewel of folk pop’. You’ll hear for yourself if you take a few minutes to listen to this podcast of our live in-studio bonding session. He’s been hard at work and now starting to release some of his original and very spiritual songs from his eighth studio recording, called “Ten Good Sermons”.
Eugene best known for his folk pop sound, took a little musical departure recently to write and record a collection of Italian songs celebrating his Italian heritage and his love of Mediterranean and pop music, folk music. And he wrote a classy little book to along with it, on food, music, and Italian culture, which I thought was very cool.
Eugene Ruffolo also has a great sense of humor too as evidenced by how he handled the ridiculous opening of my live show as he sat next to me. En route to the studio, I reached in blindly to my purse while driving and accidentally sprayed ‘Band Aid Antiseptic Cleansing to Go Spray’ in my mouth instead of the ‘Listerine Cool Mint’ which comes in the exact same pump packaging. Feel free to say it. What an idiot.
Panicking that I might have poisoned myself but knowing that I had to show up dead or alive because Eugene came from NYC to be in the radio studio, I decided to risk not going to the emergency room and instead spent a few hyper minutes on the phone minutes right before the show started with the nurse from Band Aids 800 #. She sweetly read off the chemical ingredients I sprayed on my tongue and suggested I contact poison control. Oh well, no time for that.
Instead I played a few of Eugene’s songs to calm myself down LOL, and give my audience a taste of his extraordinary talent including new songs he’s just released.
In order we sampled:
Late Bloomer (My personal favorite as the words were just so good!)
I guess I tend to procrastinateThough it’s hard to articulateMaybe it’s my destiny maybe my fateSooner may be better but it’s never too late
Bella Maria
Closer To You
Poor Lonesome Me
Like many who were just about to launch ‘something’ right when the pandemic hit, Eugene’s best laid plans got put on hold.
“Embarrassed to say it was actually because that little pandemic that pesky little pandemic got in the way because I finished the record in 2019 and I was just about to go on a tour to Europe, literally in April 1st of 2020, and then you know what happened there. So yeah, and I was about to release the record and then that happened and then I sort of just sat down.”
“It felt like a strange time to do it and I couldn’t figure out what the right time was and all this time went by and then I thought, well, I need to get this, I need to get this record out. I have more music to make.”
As far as Eugene Ruffalo’s Italian songs go…his are quite beautiful. His Italian album is called ‘Canto per Mangiare’.
“I’ve always embraced my Italian heritage, and I always had a sort of love of Italian music, because I started going to Italy when I was a child, and I went a lot during my twenties. I spent a lot of time there during my 20s. I had all these friends, and I didn’t speak any Italian when I first started going. One of the ways that I learned how to speak Italian was through the music. I listened to a lot of music, and I would ask my friends, what does this mean and what does that mean.”
Eugene wanted to get to the roots of real Italian music not the stereotypical Italian songs like ‘Volare’ he said, which come to think of it I vividly remember being played on a the ‘Victrola’ at my grandparents house when I was a kid.
“That’s one of the impetus behind this record was the fact that I think in America, people only know Italian music in two ways. They know it as classical, right? Let’s just use Pavarotti. Bocelli is more of a pop guy, but he has sort of a classical, he has a classical aesthetic right? Or the Italian American Dean Martin singing Volare and that kind of thing. So, I wanted to get to more because there are a lot of other aspects of Italian music. So, my record really has a few elements to it. One of them is traditional Neapolitan folk music, which is really beautiful. And then the other is just singer-songwriters from the 70s, like the equivalents of the James Taylor, Cat Stevens that we have here, but that existed in the 70s in Italy. So, I covered some of their songs, and then I wrote a bunch of tunes myself.”
Eugene’s about to take his first trip in 4 years to perform. He’s going overseas to Ireland. He’s never been there. Then on to the Netherlands.
But I told him he had to come do my show first because I needed to know more about him and wanted more people to hear him so they wouldn’t have to say… How come I don’t know you?
You’ll thank me for introducing you to Eugene Ruffolo on this podcast of our live conversation on The Debbie Nigro Show. If you’d rather read than listen the audio transcript is below.
AUDIO TRANSCRIPT:
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It’s time for the Debbie Nigro Show with Debbie Nigro, who says she’s still a babe, or at least she thinks she still is. That’s right, attitude is everything, and Debbie’s delusionally young. No one sees the glass of Cabernet half full like Debbie. She’s fresh air with a magnetic flair. Some day has arrived, and as far as she’s concerned, it’s time to roll.
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And the same girl sitting there on the phone with the poison control hotline for the band-aid people because you can’t even believe this story today. Hey everybody, I’m Debbie Nigro. As you know, I come to the show every day here at WGCH between 11 and 12 noon. We’re on a digital live stream. You can listen all over the world at wgch.com.
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I’m going to tell you about in a second because he came all the way from New York City. He was introduced by a friend in Miami who said, you’ve got to listen to this guy. Like this guy is unbelievable. He’s a singer, songwriter, his music is magical, his songs calm people down. I got to play a lot of them today. So I listen and I was blown away. And now I play his music while I work to keep myself calm. And we’re going to have to stay calm after
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you hear this story. But first, let me introduce Eugene Ruffalo. Eugene. Hi. Good to have you here.
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It’s good to be here.
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Okay, poor Eugene. He’s like, sees me blow in here and I go, listen, listen, listen, you’ll understand this. I showed him a picture of my mother on a mass car that fell on my head from the car visor as I was driving in the middle of what just happened, Eugene. So you don’t mind if I take a second and tell everybody? Of course not. Eugene was so important to me that I risked dying in my car to get here. Now, I’m an idiot because I knew I had a premonition when I put side by side in my little pocketbook the Listerine Cool Mint Pocket Mist
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and the Band-Aid Antiseptic Cleansing to Go Spray that some idiot…
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They’re the same size, they’re the same shape, they’re the same kind of a spray device.
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Right, so I said to myself, look, you’re stupid enough to accidentally spray this Band-Aid stuff in your mouth, take it out of your pocketbook. So I didn’t listen to myself, forgot. So I’m trying to look cute for Eugene because I’m like late and I’m trying to put makeup on in the car, I’m changing lanes, and I go grab this, what I think is mouth spray, and I spray the freaking Band-Aid antiseptic
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cleansing to go spray on my tongue. I caught it, and with a split second, I was like, oh my God, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. So now I start mainlining, I have an old cup of coffee from yesterday, it’s cold, I’m just washing my mouth,
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washing, spitting out, washing, spitting, thinking, I can’t die before Eugene. I gotta get to Eugene. He’s in the studio, came from New York City. So I’m literally Bobby and Eugene. I did this the entire way up 95.
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If you saw me driving, you’d been like, what is wrong with this woman? Is that rinsing and wiping my tongue with a paper towel?
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You had some complication out there.
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I don’t know whether you heard about the accident that happened over near exit two. No. Fellas in a work truck got into an argument inside the truck. It came to blows. They drove off the road. Big accident by exit two. That was not today. That was this morning.
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Somehow that happened yesterday, didn’t it? No, no. It was this morning? Yeah. Anyway, so just before I got up here, I’m like, I kept trying to Google and you know you’re not supposed to use your phone while you’re driving, but I’m like, I’m gonna die. I’d rather know before like, you know, I need to know. So I finally decided to, and I can’t see too good at this stage of my life, I need like, you know, magnifying glass, but I was able to read the 1-800 number on the back of the Band-Aid thing, and just as I pulled into the studio, I go, let me just, woman answers at the other end, do you want a person or do you want a nurse? poison hotline what she’s like from the Midwest she says so oh I’m so sorry to hear that I’m like listen listen listen I’m on the air in three minutes I’m gonna
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die and she just basically gave me the poison control hotline and told me a few things that were in it since I’m here talking Eugene I’m thinking I’m gonna make it it looks that way but I thought you’d get a kick out of in the middle of this being an Italian heritage guy as well that my mother the Italian mother falls from the visor the mask card right on my lap like dead.
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By the way, my sister and I have an extensive collection of mask cards. Me too.
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Which we keep. I keep everybody’s.
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Where do you keep them?
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Well, I have them in my closet in a little box, but it’s one of my prized possessions.
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I have everybody’s mask card, too. Wow, we’re like twins.
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Eugene!
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Can I tell everybody a little bit more about you?
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Of course.
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I know you’re soulful, I know you’re very special. I’m very honored to have you here today. I apologize for the opening.
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The opening was fantastic.
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I thought you’d appreciate who you were sitting with. You know, I’m a professional, and I like to say that in some areas of my life I probably am best in class, and in some areas I’m a real idiot. And I think that’s true for all of us. Before we get into your genius,
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is there anything that you are stupid about?
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Stupid about?
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I’m stupid about everything.
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Oh, good. Okay, I feel comfortable. Now, Eugene Ruffalo. Am I saying it right? It’s not Ruffalo. It’s Ruffalo.
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Well, it’s Ruffalo, actually.
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It’s Ruffalo.
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I call myself Ruffalo, but it’s really… Eugene Ruffalo. If we’re going to be Italian, purest.
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We’re going to be Italian. Eugene is a prolific and deeply personal songwriter. The world could use more of him. I swear I listened to your music and I felt you. I could feel it in my veins and that is really powerful. I was really taken aback by the beauty of your vocal gift and the genius of your songwriting
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skills. So that’s a compliment that I genuinely mean. Eugene covers themes like forgiveness, the precious bonds of friendship, the search for existential truth, and his music has been referred to and I read a lot of your accolades, your by yourself for so long and thinking and thinking and creating.
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In addition to his own songwriting, he has shared studios and stages with many famous artists, drawn to his unique vocal talents. People like Garth Brooks and Tony Bennett and Kenny Loggins, Run-DMC, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Livingston Taylor, Spyro Gyro, which I was a huge fan, just to name a few. And his last album, Little Departure here, was a collection of Italian songs celebrating his heritage and his love of Mediterranean and pop music, folk music too.
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And he also wrote a book, go along with it, on food, music, and Italian culture, which I thought was very cool. And he’s about to take his first trip to Europe. He’s going to Ireland. He’s never been there. It’s the first time he’s traveling to Europe in four years.
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He’ll go on to the Netherlands, but I’m like, no, no, now you’ve got to come to the show first. So here we are together today. Now, who besides me doesn’t know about you? This is crazy.
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How did I not know about you? Oh, there are a few people actually.
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I was kind of remiss. I was like, why would I know about this amazing guy? When I heard you sing the Italian, it was as captivating as any famous Italian singer I’ve ever heard in my life. And I think that that’s one thing we’re gonna play on the show. But I love some of your songs.
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One song you sent me, I’m like, I think this is my new favorite song.
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So…
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What’s that? Oh, it was the third one.
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It was about…
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Oh, come on, Debbie.
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I know.
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Sort of being forever young. What was it? The third one? The third one you sent about aging, not aging. Oh, Late Bloomer?
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Late Bloomer.
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Late Bloomer. Yeah. So before we talk about you, let’s listen to a little bit of you, because I think this is my new favorite song.
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Okay. Late Bloomer. That’s good, because I almost didn’t choose that one. Really? At the very end I thought, oh, maybe I’ll put Late Bloomer in there.
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It’s a little bit of an unusual song for me, that one. I loved it. Well, I’m a late bloomer, yes I am Simply doing the best I can Two birds in the bush, none in hand I’m a late bloomer Well, I’m a late bloomer, my oh my
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We’re going to continue, that’s just a little taste of a huge range of music you’re going to hear written by
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and performed by my in-studio superstar Eugene Ruffalo, who I have to tell you is going to just make your day today. And if this guy doesn’t calm you down and help calm the world down, I’ll eat my hat. Come on back. More to come here on the Debbie Nye Grow Show. And now, back to the Debbie Nigro Show. I know there’s a higher love, and I know there’s a higher being or something that controlled my mother falling from the top of my visor today with her mask on my head in the middle of my emergency think I poisoned myself thing
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on the way to the show today. It’s all these little, you know, people call them God wings, you know, little moments in time. Anyway, hi everybody, I’m Debbie Nogger. Good to be back with you guys again today in the studio. I have an incredible guest, Eugene Ruffalo, whose music that he’s written and performed
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and is going to be taking around the world again because he’s acclaimed worldwide talent in case you haven’t caught up with him, which if you haven’t, like I hadn’t, oh boy, are you in for a treat. Welcome back, Eugene. Thank you. Before we went to the break, and I cut that a little short, I would like not to do that,
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there’s a song that really resonated with me, not only for the music because it sounded a little bit like James Teller-ish or Livingston Teller-ish, but the words really got me. It was called Late Bloomer. And if you listen to the words, your point that you’re making, you can tell everybody the lyrics. Go ahead. Oh, the lyrics? Well… The one line that we said resonated.
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Which just sort of wraps the song up.
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I’m a late bloomer. I’m right where I’m supposed to… Well, the ending says, Well, but no more woe is me. I’m right where I’m supposed to be. I’m right on time.
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Yeah, late bloomer, but right on time. Bobby, play again because I think we need to just hear a little bit more. I want to have this be my theme song.
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I guess I tend to procrastinate. I know it’s hard to articulate. Maybe it’s my destiny, ever too late, but I’m a late fool That’s alright Hear me singing my song tonight I don’t try to argue Put up a fight, I’m a late bloomer
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I get to thinking I was born this way
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That it’s encoded in my DNA come to think about it it’s kind of true my late great-granddad was a dreamer too
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okay so that’s my new favorite song from Eugene Ruffalo but he’s got more again New York singer-songwriter Magical music songs calm people down. I start playing the music now while I work. He was Introduced to me by a fabulous guy Buddy Petrillo who his real name is not buddy, but everybody calls him buddy And he’s just like the best person in the world when he says pay attention He goes you gotta have Eugene Ruffalo on your show. You’ve got to meet him. I’m like, okay
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Eugene sitting in the studio feels good to be here today. Oh, it’s fantastic to be here I’m so happy to meet you and share you with the world because I really do think you’re a gift and Okay, so you’ve been working quietly on this new album ten good sermons for how long now? Well, it’s
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Embarrassed to say it actually because that little pandemic that pesky little pandemic got in the way because I finished the record in 2019 and I was just about to go on a tour to Europe, literally in April 1st of 2020, and then you know what happened there. So yeah, and I was about to release the record and then that happened and then I sort of
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just sat down.
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It felt like a strange time to do it and I couldn’t figure out what the right time was and all this time went by and then I thought, well, I need to get this, I need to get this record out. I have more music to make.
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You don’t own the market on having a moment where you were just about to launch something and then having to stop. Many people had that happen across the world and are just now thinking it might be time again. It took all this time for people to A, get through the pandemic or not and deal with the fallout of some of the sadness and tragedies and then get the strength back to A, want to do something again, B, want to be around people again, and then you obviously perform to people who gather.
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That was a big problem, like who’s gathering, right?
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Right, and singing, of course, was considered to be like a…
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A spewer of germs.
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Exactly.
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A germ spewer.
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No one wanted to be around a singer.
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No. It’s funny you should mention that. I just went to some mass singing event last week in New Jersey and I friends of mine are behind it they got the North American rights I can’t talk about it yet but I just did and I was invited to see what this was and my hesitation about going was oh my gosh all those people singing with their germs spewing in the air do I want to be
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in a room with all these germs I mean we’ve gotten weirded out in our head I went I said buck up Debbie let’s cut it out and just get in it was joyful and really joyful so all right speaking of joyful here you are with me with more joyful songs that we’re going to play for my audience, who I’m happy is getting to share you. Okay, so we’ll do the next one that you sent me. I said, give me four songs that you love and want to share with everybody.
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And this one is called, what, Forgiveness?
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That’s called Poor Lonesome Me.
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Oh, Poor Lonesome Me. What’s wrong with me? I can’t get the song name right.
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It’s that Listerine.
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Oh yeah. Wow. It did affect me. I’m just catching on. I sprayed Band-Aid in my mouth instead of Listerine. I’m hoping to make it through the show. Okay. Poor Lonesome Me. Poor Lonesome Me. Eugene Ruffalo.
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No deep brown eyes. No golden skin. To hypnotize. To pull me in, no ocean smile any fool could see That it’s poor, poor lonesome me Well I did my best just to make you stay
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But you shut it down Yeah, you run away
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You toss and turn, crash and burn and slip right through
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Oh, pull on some you Pull on some me Well, I’m not the same Some of the chords in there just give you chills. Like, how do you come up with these combinations?
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Amazing. I clearly need you in my life, that’s for sure. Well, you know you do that to people. Well, thank you. Yeah, okay, so the Italian thing, obviously, Ruffalo, you might guess, you might be of Italian heritage, you decided to embrace your Italian heritage.
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Oh, I’ve always embraced my Italian heritage, but I always had a sort of love of Italian music, because I started going to Italy when I was a child, and I went a lot during my twenties, I spent a lot of time there during my 20s. I had all these friends and I didn’t speak any Italian when I first started going. One of the ways that I learned how to speak Italian was through the music. I listened to a lot of music and I would ask my friends, what does this mean and what does
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that mean?
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Can I ask you a question? Sure. Growing up, my Italian grandmother, who had like eight kids and no time for herself, when we used to go to grandma’s house on Sunday, they had an old big Victrola and there was an Italian song every once in a while that would make it out and everybody was like, oh we love that one, it’s the only one we knew.
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Nel blu di pinto di blu. What does that translate to?
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Any clue? Well in the blue, that’s from Volare. So talking about the sky, right? In the blue, the pinto di blu is painted in blue.
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Thank you so much.
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It’s just sort of an image about the sky.
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You know the song, Bola?
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Oh my gosh, everybody’s like, yay, let’s party!
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That’s what I was actually trying to avoid, to be honest, in my record, was that stereotype of sort of tacky Italian-American music. I wanted to get to the roots of real Italian music.
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Which you’ve created now, an entire album, right? And the album is called?
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Canto per Mangiare. Oh, it sounds so pretty.
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Would you like to sing a little something from that for the audience? Sure. Is that really where you’re… You love this, don’t you?
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I love this. I do, I do. I love this project, I must admit.
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Okay. And he also wrote a book about food, Italian culture, and everything to go along with it. Go ahead, Bobby, you can play this.
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So this song is a… This song that I wrote, actually, for the record.
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So I was…
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Bella Maria.
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Bella Maria. the to conquer your team he’s finally quote he said Basta che vengo vicino e tu te ne vai
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Maria
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Quante bugie che devo sentire da te So gorgeous, oh my gosh, so gorgeous. I want to lay down just like listen to it. So you’re just listening to, if you haven’t heard his talent before, Eugene Ruffalo, who has a folk pop, really, reputation in the world, globally, but has decided to bring
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into his universe some of his heritage in terms of music and appreciation is now singing Italian. You know, a lot of people, they think of Italian music and only name like Bocelli, Bocelli and Bocelli, Paparazzi before him. But, you know, where do you,
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what other famous Italian singers
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do people know in America?
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Well, that’s what I was saying was like,
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that’s one of the impetuses behind this record was the fact that I think in America, people only know Italian music in two ways. They either know it as classical, right? Let’s just use Pavarotti. Bocelli is more of a pop guy, but he has sort of a classical, he has a classical aesthetic,
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right? Or the Italian-American Dean Martin singing Volare and that kind of thing. So I wanted to get to, there are a lot of other aspects of Italian music. So mine is going to like, the record really has a few elements to it. One of them is traditional Neapolitan folk music, which is really beautiful. And then the other is just singer-songwriters from the 70s, like the equivalents of the
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James Taylor, Cat Stevens that we have here, but that existed in the 70s in Italy. So I covered some of their songs, and then I wrote a bunch of tunes myself.
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Amazing. We have one more song we’re going to play, and I want to make sure we get it in before you leave us today, and it’s called Closer to You. Describe this one. This is a whole other departure.
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Well, okay, so this is my new record is my attempt. It’s interesting when you played Forlorn to Me, I was thinking that, because that’s from an older record, it’s kind of a breakup song, and one of my intentions for this new record, Ten Good Sermons, was not to write any sad songs. It was an exercise, songwriting exercise, to write more, just some more positive takes on things. So this Closer to You is a very vague song. It sort of has a vaguely spiritual element to it. It almost sounds like I’m singing about God, but I’m not. It’s just sort of a song of… I don’t even know how to classify it.
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Let’s just hear it, and then I’ll tell you what my opinion is, and then Bobby will have his opinion, and then the audience will have their opinion, and then we’ll tell you what it sounds like. Eugene Ruffalo.
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Time keeps on moving on, time keeps on moving on Bringing me closer, closer to you I’m tired of you Bringing me closer Closer to you What is this thing called love?
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Sending me gifts from above Bringing me closer It’s a little ethereal, if you will. Soulful.
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Just about, you know, it kind of takes you away.
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It’s one of those sorts of, it’s one of those kind of open-ended songs that, you know, is to be interpreted by the listener.
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By the listener. Okay, so if you haven’t heard Eugene Ruffalo’s music before, you have just gotten a sampling of it here today on the Debbie Nigro Show. He is amazing and obviously, you know, I’m the last to know, but he’s got so much coming. And he’ll be traveling for the first time in four years to Europe, and up here in Ireland, moving on to the Netherlands.
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He’s been performing in studios and stages with a lot of famous people. I hope you enjoy him as I have come to learn to enjoy him. And you can find more of all his work at EugeneRuffalo.com. That’s E-U-G-E-N-E-R-U-F-F-O-L-O dot com. Amazing.
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Thank you so much, Eugene.
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Oh, you’re so amazing. So honored to have you here in the studio today. Like, people are thinking like I discovered you. I mean, like I’m the last to discover you. It’s terrible. Like, people are thinking like I discovered you. I mean, like I’m the last to discover you. It’s terrible. All right, onward, The Debbie Nigro Show.
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